P - Present
E - Excused
A - Absent
Roll Call
P Rep. Derby
P Rep. Pummel
P Sen. Madden
P Sen. Greenfield
P Sen. Kleven
P Rep. Clark
P Rep. Burg
P Sen. Dennert
P Sen. Drake, Chair
OTHERS PRESENT: See Original Minutes
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Drake
Department of Health
Secretary Doneen B. Hollingsworth was introduced as well as other personnel of the Department of
Health.
An overview of the accomplishments and the mission statement of the Department was given by Ms.
Hollingsworth and copies of Document #2 were distributed to members of the committee.
An overview of the budget was given by Ms. Hollingsworth. (See Document #1)
Jerry Hofer, Division of Administration, was introduced and explained the elements of his division
as found on pages 4, 5, and 6 of Document #2.
Representative Derby asked if the vital records portion of E-Government costs are to be within that
division of the Department of Health. Mr. Hofer explained that the costs for E-Government
pertaining to vital records are covered by charging for vital records requested.
Representative Clark asked how much money will be invested into E-Government. Mr. Hofer
replied that it was close to $1 million in the last three years.
Representative Clark asked if the cost of the developmental stages of technology within the vital
records element of the department was covered by charging for copies of the vital records. Mr.
Hofer replied that the Bureau of Information and Telecommunications has funds within its budget
to place the vital records within E-Government.
Representative Clark asked if there are federal funds for the vital records database development. Mr.
Hofer that it is already budgeted for FY2001 and there are no federal funds for the development in
FY2002.
Mr. Kevin Forsch from the Division of Health Systems Development and Regulation was
introduced. He explained the purpose of his division. (See Document #2, pages 7, 8, 9, and 10)
Senator Kleven asked why the licensing for bed and breakfast establishments is down while the
licenses for food and lodging establishments are remaining stable. Mr. Forsch explained that
regulations have increased for bed and breakfast establishments so fewer licenses are being applied
for.
Representative Pummel asked who provided the funds for licensing EMT's and the training they
received. Mr. Forsch explained that the Department of Highway Safety supplied the funds for Avera
to train them and his division licensed them after training.
Representative Pummel wanted clarification on the amount that Avera was paid to provide the
training for EMT's. Mr. Forsch replied that Avera receives $70,000 per year.
Representative Derby inquired about a bill that was passed dealing with ADF's Mr. Forsch replied
that the bill passed stated that a public entity could apply to have an ADF placed in their
establishment for use with heart attack or code blue victims. They are in place so that when the
establishments request emergency aid, they can notify the emergency personnel that the ADF is
present for their use. The department's role is to explain the usage of the ADF, not to track or log
purchase or usage.
Senator Madden asked if the federal funds recommended in their budget for the long-study of
uninsured people could be used in other areas. Mr. Forsch said that the funds were specifically given
for that study and couldn't be used in any other area.
Senator Drake asked if the critical access hospitals had a cap on how long patients could remain in
the hospital for any given medical reason. Mr. Forsch explained that there is a limitation placed on
the critical access hospitals for how long a patient may stay, but they have the flexibility to change
the average.
Senator Kleven asked if the nursing home facilities have a cap on the number of beds they are
allowed. Mr. Forsch explained that the cap is placed on the whole state for the number of facilities
and beds that can be licensed. He also stated that there is enough to supply the demand for beds
statewide. Bigger corporations have one license per facility, no matter how many they own.
Senator Drake asked if the assisted living facilities are causing problems within the nursing home
community because they are taking away from the funding of nursing home facilities and if it is
cheaper to place someone in assisted living rather than a nursing home, and if we are artificially
driving up the cost of the budget by allowing the number of assisted living facilities to be licensed.
Mr. Forsch replied that assisted living facilities are a necessity, that a lot of people are turning to
them because of the actuality of their need and that nursing homes can declare a portion of their beds
to be assisted living quarters rather than nursing home quarters without any expense besides
licensing.
Senator Kleven asked if nursing homes had to have a certain percentage of occupancy in order to
receive Medicare reimbursements from the federal government. Mr. Forsch explained that the
nursing homes had to run at a 90% occupancy level.
Representative Pummel asked Mr. Forsch to explain how critical access hospitals receive a higher
Medicare reimbursement rate when they convert. Mr. Forsch replied that when a hospital converts
to having a total of twenty-five inpatient beds, limits the number of hospital stays, and staffs down
their emergency room to include only an on-call physician, they are given aid by the federal
government. This allows rural hospitals to keep their doors open.
Ms. Lori Gill, Division of Health and Medical Services, was introduced and explained the role of
the division.
Representative Clark inquired about the Disease Prevention portion of Document #1, page 3,
containing $206,000 from other funds. Ms. Gill referred to page five of Document #1 and explained
that these funds were for varicella vaccine donations.
Representative Pummel asked if WIC is available in every city. Ms. Gill stated that they are in each
city in either the community health office or the public health office.
Representative Clark asked if there is a fee for the services provided by Family Planning. Ms. Gill
stated that there is a recommended donation amount given to each customer but they aren't required
to pay a fee.
Senator Drake asked why the WIC programs are not shown to be in each city according to page
thirteen of Document #2. Ms. Gill explained that the state may not have an office in each city, but
if they do not, then the county or city does have one. (See map on page 13 of Document #2 for state-
funded offices.)
Senator Drake asked if the Department was involved in any expansion plans with BIT. Ms. Gill
explained that they had small projects, but nothing on a large scale.
Representative Clark asked if the Department is planning on adding to the All Women Count
screening and if so, who would be screened. Ms. Gill replied that they are adding more tests to the
screening to include blood-pressure and glucose level testing and that the women included are those
who are already involved in the program and being screened otherwise.
Representative Clark inquired about the Breast and Cervical Cancer Control Program and if it
included Native American women. Ms. Gill replied that it did and that they are trying to reach the
Native American women.
Senator Drake addressed his concern about the databases that the Department is compiling and who
would have access to the databases. Ms. Hollingsworth came forward to address Senator Drakes
question and replied that the breast/cervical cancer database would contain no personal information
but would only contain results of testing. She also stated that this information would not be shared
with insurance providers.
Representative Clark addressed the $490, 929 from federal funds for the Well-Integrated Screening
of Women and asked if these federal funds must be matched by the state. Ms. Hollingsworth stated
that they do have to be matched by the state, but they will not ask for an increase in the budget to do
so, but the Department will solicit donations for the funds.
Ms. Hollingsworth gave an overview of the department giving their accomplishments since last year.
Representative Clark asked to address the Bright Start Program and asked if Early Head-Start was
virtually the same thing. Ms. Hollingsworth stated that they were similar but not the same and that
they do share referrals.
Senator Drake inquired as to the number of patients each nurse within the Bright Start Program is
responsible for, what their workload is, and if they also give aid to those on reservations. Ms.
Hollingsworth stated that the nurses are monitoring the new mothers and newborns; they provide
healthcare solutions; they have up to twenty clients each, and their workload is intense. They have
just two pilot Bright Start Programs in effect as of now, in Rapid City and Sioux Falls.
Representative Pummel asked if the Department monitored the number of refused vaccinations due
to religious reasons. Ms. Hollingsworth replied that they have less than .05 % that refuse.
Senator Greenfield asked how long the Bright Start program nurses continued to aid mothers after
the baby was born. Ms. Hollingsworth replied that they help the mother and child until the child is
three years of age.
Ms. Hollingsworth discussed their diabetes screening that is being scheduled for April this year and
the need for $500,000 in increased budget funds to provide this one-time mass screening.
Senator Drake asked if some of the projected ending balances of other funds could be put toward the
diabetes screening. Ms. Hollingsworth stated that there is no prohibition to them using the funds for
the screening. However, the Department would prefer volunteered funds and donated materials so
the Department could allow a 60-day reserve in the other funds.
Senator Clark asked if the screening by nonprofit organizations was enough and why did the
Department want to duplicate this screening. Senator Clark also addressed the issue that the diabetes
screening is a one-time test and if it would be as effective as continual screening is. Ms.
Hollingsworth replied that they are not trying to replace what the nonprofit organizations do. They
are just making a huge one-time effort to not only provide a screening, but also mass-produce
materials that give information about diabetes and to distribute this information as well.
Senator Greenfield asked what the $500,000 is for if the Department is going to get donated
materials and volunteer workers. Ms. Hollingsworth stated that the recommended funds would cover
television spots, advertising in other areas, and production and distribution of materials.
Senator Drake questioned the accuracy of the screening because of the lack of instruction to those
who will come to be tested, i.e., they will have eaten. Ms. Hollingsworth stated that those who
administer the tests are able to make adjustments to the readings based on the information given
them by the clients being screened.
Senator Madden asked if there is documentation of the monies saved by the state by increasing
awareness and early detention of diabetes. Ms. Hollingsworth replied that the department did not
do a survey as to the amount of funds saved by the state but that the government has and it is the #1
cost in America to federal agencies.
Representative Clark asked if the one-time test didn't give positive results the first time a person was
tested, and that same person then believed they didn't have diabetes and were not tested again in
another year, what is the positive result of the one-time test they are asking to be funded. Ms.
Hollingsworth replied that it will raise the awareness of diabetes and hopefully will draw some of
the people who would not generally go and get tested by the nonprofit organizations or anywhere
else.
Senator Dennert asked why there is an increase of approximately 25% in the recommended budget
compared to FY2000. Ms. Hollingsworth replied that she did not feel the increase was that dramatic
considering the new costs of inflation, etc.
Senator Drake asked why the Department is requesting a budget for 303.5 FTE positions when they
only employ 289 FTE and where the extra funds remain. Ms. Hollingsworth replied that the federal
funds remain and they are hiring at this time.
Representative Clark addressed the lab bond payment. She asked if the payment is paid out of the
federal funds why there is an additional $1, 926 recommended from the general fund. Ms.
Hollingsworth replied that the increase is for the increase in 1/3 of the bond fee that has to be paid
by the general fund. Ms. Hollingsworth also stated that 2/3 of the bond payment comes from the
general fund and 1/3 is paid by the lab fees.
Senator Drake expressed that the lab bond payment issue needed to be further addressed as well as
the FTE's budgeted.
The committee recessed at 11:05AM
The committee reconvened at 11:20 AM
Animal Industry Board
Dr. Sam Holland was introduced.
Dr. Holland explained the budget total and the $60,000 increase in funds needed. He explained the
increase is for testing of cattle for Johnes Disease.
Senator Drake asked if there is a vaccine for Johnes Disease once it is found. Dr. Holland stated that
there is a vaccine available but not used. If the cattle test positive, they are sent to slaughter as there
are not any regulations stating that they cannot be eaten.
The rendering aspect of cattle farming was generally discussed between the committee members and
Dr. Holland.
MOTION:
ADJOURN
Moved by: Madden
Second by: Drake
Action: Passed by voice vote.
LeAnn Allstot
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Committee SecretaryBob Drake, Chair
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